Sam hosts environmental lawyer Barbara Freese to discuss her new book, Industrial-Strength Denial: Eight Stories of Corporations Defending the Indefensible, from the Slave Trade to Climate Change. Sam and Freese discuss how the psychology of corporate denial has remained the same over centuries. Freese contends that when confronted with the harm they cause—whether to individuals or to the environment—corporations deny the evidence, blame their victims, complain of witch-hunts, attack their critics, and rationalize their destructive behavior. Sam and Freese also delve into how society fights back against corporate lies using tools of democracy like boycotts, government intervention, and media scrutiny.

And in the Fun Half: when the White House lies about “flattening the curve,” Larry Kudlow says get used to Covid, the importance of the NY16 and Kentucky senate primary, Greg Gutfeld’s Steven Crowder DMs, plus your phone calls and IMs!

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