Sam and Emma host Joshua D. Rothman, University of Alabama professor of history, to discuss his new book, The Ledger and the Chain: How Domestic Slave Traders Shaped America, the myths around the slave trade industry, the deep ties between slavery and US imperialism, and Racial capitalism’s exploitative innovation. Prof. Rothman walks us through the financialization of the exploitation, and explores how our economy was built on money from the domestic slave trade. Next, Sam and Emma chat about Manchin coming around on the PRO act, the futility of police training, and the United Mine Workers’ decision to support a just transition program away from fossil fuels.

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